SUMMARY console server

From: Hummers, Rick <hummers_at_enterasys.com> Date: Wed Jul 25 2001 - 11:52:23 EDT · This archive was generated by hypermail 2.1.8 : Wed Mar 23 2016 - 16:25:00 EDT

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Thanks to a bunch of folks, including (hope I didn't miss someone): 
Kurt Ludwig, Benjamin Ingwersen, Robert Aldridge, Tom Sevy, Jim Kurtenbach, 
Paul LaMadeleine, Oisin McGuinness, Alan Davis, Dennis Breeden, Thomas
Walsh, 
David Bader, Hank Lee, Art Mast, Yura Pismerov, Boe Franklin, Trevor
Paquette
Dan Goetzman, Greg Freemyer

Some suggested specific products, some just companies, suggestions (in order
received) included:

Cyclades 		TS1000/TS2000			www.cyclades.com
Digital Networks	DS90M/DS90TL/DSRVW		www.dnpg.com
Western Telematic -					www.wti.com
Emulex 		-					www.emulex.com
Digi 			Portserver II 			www.digi.com
Equinox		ELS (dec like servers)		www.equinox
Lightwave 		Consoleserver 32
www.lightwavecom.com 
ConsoleWorks	TecSys (software)			www.tecsys.com
Cisco 		AS2511				www.cisco.com
Livingston		Portmaster 2E			www.lucent.com

Some suggested browsing the used markets for products (Dec, Livingston and
Cisco mentioned):

Gemini Digital
www.geminidigital.com
Newman Group						www.newman.com 
ebay								www.ebay.com

One person Suggested build-you-own with a Unix kernel and a serial mux card.
(and there were several sales people contacted me based on the mail - tich,
tich, tich)

It doesn't appear that any fit ALL my wishes, some do more some less.    

I did some quick calculations of some of the listed new products based on
web page price 
and I saw a range of $81/port to $259/port.    

I think I will browse the used market for some DEC/DNPG DS90Ms because I
very familiar with them, I have a few already, their size and price fit my
needs ($152.00/port based on new pricing).

thanks to all
\s\Rick

>  -----Original Message-----
> From: 	Hummers, Rick (Frederick)  
> Sent:	Friday, July 20, 2001 8:35 AM
> To:	'Sunmanagers'; 'tru64-unix-managers@ornl.gov'
> Subject:	console server
> 
> I am looking for a good console terminal server, any suggestions?
> 
> What I would like is a Terminal Server that will allow me to telnet to the
server and 
> connect to a particular port, permitting connection to the console port of
the Unix 
> system connect thereto.  
> 
> Features I would like are:
>   Allows what I call 'reverse telnet' so I can telnet to the system
connected to it's ports
>   Allows a 'vt100' terminal emulation or is totally character blind
>   Is standalone or near standalone (i.e. no load file required, or one
time flash load)
>   Is easy to configure for this reverse telnet operation
>   Rack mountable so that I can put it in a 19" cabinet with my systems 
>   Provides about 8 or more ports per unit
>   Has local port configuration (name to port configuration)
>   Uses standard off-the-shelf cabling between it's ports and the systems
(MMJs and DB25Ps)
>   Can, on remote command, generate 'Break characters' on the target port 
>   Uses NIS to authenticate access
>   Has locally programmable password for 'system' level access
> 	
> thanks
> \s\Rick
> 
> 
> 	
> 

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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Thanks to a bunch of folks, including (hope I didn't =
miss someone): </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Kurt Ludwig, Benjamin Ingwersen, Robert Aldridge, =
Tom Sevy, Jim Kurtenbach, </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Paul LaMadeleine, Oisin McGuinness, Alan Davis, =
Dennis Breeden, Thomas Walsh, </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>David Bader, Hank Lee, Art Mast, Yura Pismerov, Boe =
Franklin, Trevor Paquette</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Dan Goetzman, Greg Freemyer</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Some suggested specific products, some just =
companies, suggestions (in order received) included:</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Cyclades &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; TS1000/TS2000&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; www.cyclades.com</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Digital =
Networks&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
DS90M/DS90TL/DSRVW&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; www.dnpg.com</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Western Telematic -&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; www.wti.com</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Emulex&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
-&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; www.emulex.com</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Digi &nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Portserver II &nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; www.digi.com</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Equinox &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
ELS (dec like servers)&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
www.equinox</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Lightwave &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Consoleserver =
32&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; www.lightwavecom.com </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>ConsoleWorks&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; TecSys =
(software)&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; www.tecsys.com</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Cisco &nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; AS2511&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; www.cisco.com</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Livingston&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Portmaster 2E&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; www.lucent.com</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Some suggested browsing the used markets for products =
(Dec, Livingston and Cisco mentioned):</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Gemini Digital&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; www.geminidigital.com</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Newman Group&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; www.newman.com </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>ebay&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; www.ebay.com</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>One person Suggested build-you-own with a Unix kernel =
and a serial mux card.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>(and there were several sales people contacted me =
based on the mail - tich, tich, tich)</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>It doesn't appear that any fit ALL my wishes, some do =
more some less.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>I did some quick calculations of some of the listed =
new products based on web page price </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>and I saw a range of $81/port to =
$259/port.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>I think I will browse the used market for some =
DEC/DNPG DS90Ms because I very familiar with them, I have a few =
already, their size and price fit my needs ($152.00/port based on new =
pricing).</FONT></P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>thanks to all</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>\s\Rick</FONT>
</P>
<BR>
<BR>

&nbsp;
 &gt;&nbsp; -----Original Message-----
 &gt; From: =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Hummers, Rick =
(Frederick)&nbsp; 
 &gt; Sent: Friday, July 20, 2001 8:35 AM
 &gt; To:&nbsp;&nbsp; 'Sunmanagers'; =
'tru64-unix-managers@ornl.gov'
 &gt; Subject:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; console =
server
 &gt; 
 &gt; I am looking for a good console terminal =
server, any suggestions?
 &gt; 
 &gt; What I would like is a Terminal Server that =
will allow me to telnet to the server and 
 &gt; connect to a particular port, permitting =
connection to the console port of the Unix 
 &gt; system connect thereto.&nbsp; 
 &gt; 
 &gt; Features I would like are:
 &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; Allows what I call 'reverse telnet' =
so I can telnet to the system connected to it's ports
 &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; Allows a 'vt100' terminal emulation =
or is totally character blind
 &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; Is standalone or near standalone =
(i.e. no load file required, or one time flash load)
 &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; Is easy to configure for this =
reverse telnet operation
 &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; Rack mountable so that I can put it =
in a 19&quot; cabinet with my systems 
 &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; Provides about 8 or more ports per =
unit
 &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; Has local port configuration (name =
to port configuration)
 &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; Uses standard off-the-shelf cabling =
between it's ports and the systems (MMJs and DB25Ps)
 &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; Can, on remote command, generate =
'Break characters' on the target port 
 &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; Uses NIS to authenticate =
access
 &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; Has locally programmable password =
for 'system' level access
 &gt; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
 &gt; thanks
 &gt; \s\Rick
 &gt; 
 &gt; 
 &gt; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
 &gt;

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